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reid said everybody can go home until about 11:00 tomorrow. tomorrow is new year's eve, for those paying attention. and apparently, there's no dignity left in the senate or house and they will be in tomorrow on new year's eve pretending like they're going to get to some kind of resolution here. >> what do we know about where they are, robert? did the inclusion of the vice president make any difference? what do you know? >> i think that's a key point, chris. tin collusion of vice president biden in these talks means that though these talks are stalled, negotiations continue. harry reid and mitch mcconnell had some problems getting to a final offer, final counteroffer this afternoon. but the inclusion of vice president biden means the white house is in the loop with what minority leader mcconnell is doing. >> how much hope is really the question here, ryan? taking the cost of living essentially, the cpi off the table for social security, which was going to be a non-starter for harry reid and for the president, so i guess the republicans could sa
reid said everybody can go home until about 11:00 tomorrow. tomorrow is new year's eve, for those paying attention. and apparently, there's no dignity left in the senate or house and they will be in tomorrow on new year's eve pretending like they're going to get to some kind of resolution here. >> what do we know about where they are, robert? did the inclusion of the vice president make any difference? what do you know? >> i think that's a key point, chris. tin collusion of vice...
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harry reid and mitch mcconnell are the key players. he sounded frustrated after not receiving a counter-offer. a key member of the leadership team offered this update. >> offeringses and discussions between and we remain hopeful that will get a breakthrough. obviously what happened here between the two leaders in the senate had broken down because the senate democrats failed to come forward with a counter offer to the proposal the republicans made last night. hopefully the discussions between the.and senator mcconnell will get us on track. >> republican aides recognize the consequences if it falls apart. everybody gets a tax increase in 48 hours. >> well, it's less than 48 hours now. i'm wonder, are the democrats fighting among themself? >> there's a battle over social security. republicans are including a new way of calculating inflation to lower payments to recipients of social security. democrats had could consider it if it's part of a $4 trillion package. now republicans say it's off the table and key democrats are hopeful senate l
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harry reid, before his closed door luncheon, said he was still cautiously optimistic. hard to see from our perspective why he would say this because things seem pretty bleak at this point, though you never know what's going on behind closed doors. melissa. >> thank you very much. keeping an eye on that podium because senator harry reid is apparently going to come out and speak in a few minutes so we'll watch for that. let's go to the white house correspondent kristen welker. we know the senate majority leader has talked to the president. has there been any reaction from the white house today. >> reporter: the white house is not commenting on these negotiations that are going on over on the hill. they do not want to derail them by speaking out, by agitating the situation, but i tell you that there is a lot of investment here going on behind the scenes. in addition to mitch mcconnell speaking to vice president biden, the president sent his top negotiator, one of his top negotiators, rob nabors over to the hill. he's meeting with senate democrats as well this afternoon. a
harry reid, before his closed door luncheon, said he was still cautiously optimistic. hard to see from our perspective why he would say this because things seem pretty bleak at this point, though you never know what's going on behind closed doors. melissa. >> thank you very much. keeping an eye on that podium because senator harry reid is apparently going to come out and speak in a few minutes so we'll watch for that. let's go to the white house correspondent kristen welker. we know the...
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you know, what's going on here appears to be that senator reid, the democratic leader is playing bad cop and joe biden is playing good cop. he certainly has a long history of talks and bipartisan negotiations with mitch mcconnell. i want to, over the past hour, we have spoken to two republican senators, i wanted to talk to claire mccaskill, thanks very much for joining us, they just ended their almost two-hour meeting, martin, two hours, what was going on in there behind those door? >> i know you will be shocked to hear that a lot of senators wanted to talk. >> that is shocking. >> everyone wanted to have their same i think the consensus is that we all still want to try to get a deal but some of us are very discouraged that what appears to be on the table now doesn't really do anything to reduce the deficit and this was all supposed to be an exercise in bringing down our deficit and our long-term debt and where we are right now, it doesn't appear that we are getting that done and even more importantly, it appears that republicans are still trying to protect the tippy top as opposed t
you know, what's going on here appears to be that senator reid, the democratic leader is playing bad cop and joe biden is playing good cop. he certainly has a long history of talks and bipartisan negotiations with mitch mcconnell. i want to, over the past hour, we have spoken to two republican senators, i wanted to talk to claire mccaskill, thanks very much for joining us, they just ended their almost two-hour meeting, martin, two hours, what was going on in there behind those door? >> i...
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>> it's clear from senator reid said, they are not going to touch social security. but the president has made clear in discussions with speaker boehner, these entitlement programs will be on the table but only if it's a broader debt deal. republicans have different ideas. they want to see more cuts in spending right now. >> arthel: thank you very much. >> gregg: congress is not only facing a fiscal cliff, it's up a dairy clarify, if you will. the current farm bill is set to expire on new year's day. if an extension of that is not passed, the farm policies would revert to laws back to 1949 and cost of milk, that could skyrocket. back then the government used a formula to calculate dairy prices that is much more expensive than it is today. one option said to be on the table is short term extension that would prevent milk prices from rising. >> arthel: to other stories. a judge ordering a psychiatric evaluation for a woman suspected of shoving a man off a new york public is way platform. he was arraigned last night on murder and hate crime. she confessed to pushing a m
>> it's clear from senator reid said, they are not going to touch social security. but the president has made clear in discussions with speaker boehner, these entitlement programs will be on the table but only if it's a broader debt deal. republicans have different ideas. they want to see more cuts in spending right now. >> arthel: thank you very much. >> gregg: congress is not only facing a fiscal cliff, it's up a dairy clarify, if you will. the current farm bill is set to...
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. >> one last question, harry reid said if you can't put something by tonight, he will put a scaled down version of what the president has asked for with regard to tax cuts on the senate planned for of course that is raising taxes on everybody making above $250,000 a year. do you think, knowing your republican colleagues, that enough republicans will cross over the democratic side and allow that to pass, if -- even if it's 60 votes needed? >> you know, it's hard to say until we know exactly what might be in it. this -- this is what i would say about that. if that's where we end up and if he decides to move a bill onto the floor and maybe could pick up the house passed extension of all the rates, hr-8, as a vehicle for that he ought to open it up to the amendment process, give us an opportunity to debate some of these things that we think ought to be a part of t what he will more than likely do, if history is any guide in this, is take a bill and felt amendment tree and prevent republicans from having an opportunity to offer amendments. think we would welcome an opportunity to have a deba
. >> one last question, harry reid said if you can't put something by tonight, he will put a scaled down version of what the president has asked for with regard to tax cuts on the senate planned for of course that is raising taxes on everybody making above $250,000 a year. do you think, knowing your republican colleagues, that enough republicans will cross over the democratic side and allow that to pass, if -- even if it's 60 votes needed? >> you know, it's hard to say until we know...
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harry reid says he has reached out to the president on the phone a couple of times. republicans say there is no single issue that should break this. there is something that democrats are talking about. what we have learned is in an offer presented by republicans last night at 7:00 included within that was a request to make a change to how future increases to the payments of social security would change. not taking any money away presently but over the years to come reducing the amount of increase. that is called chain cpi. for democrats it is a nonstarter. here is majority leader harry reid. >> we're not going to have any social security cuts. at this stage that doesn't seem appropriate. i still hold out hope that we can get something done but i'm not overly optimistic but i am cautiously optimistic. >> so you hear some sense that there might be a potential for movement. i think we have to judge everything in little incremental steps. why do republicans want that? basically their focus is if they are giving on tax increases which we get the indication they are willin
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harry reid's comments that you played earlier. it does not look like the democrats are going to budge on the chain cpi. they've publicly taken a stand against it. ironically on the same day where barack obama noted that he was in favor of perhaps agreeing to chain cpi as part of a bigger deal. so from what i can tell, the chain cpi is off the table for democrats. if that's not enough for the -- if that's a must-have for the republicans, then we're not going to have a deal. >> i'm going to interrupt you, we're going to keep tracking this story together. >>> coming up next, a man you're not seeing on tv, he's playing in the background. he may be the most feared man in washington and he doesn't even hold office. >> if i went and became a tibetan monk on the top of some mountain somewhere, the american people would still, they were against tax increases long before i was born. the whole tea party thing predates me. >>> grover norquist on the fiscal cliff showdown and why politicians won't back down from signing his anti-tax pledge. so
harry reid's comments that you played earlier. it does not look like the democrats are going to budge on the chain cpi. they've publicly taken a stand against it. ironically on the same day where barack obama noted that he was in favor of perhaps agreeing to chain cpi as part of a bigger deal. so from what i can tell, the chain cpi is off the table for democrats. if that's not enough for the -- if that's a must-have for the republicans, then we're not going to have a deal. >> i'm going to...
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shown absolutely good faith in just that we're a part on some pretty big issues. >> that was harry reid, the senate majority leader representing the democratic side of things. from the sound of both men, it appears that they are at an impasse. and certainly not optimistic when it comes to trying to reach any kind of any negotiated settlement right now. 6 we'll continue to listen in here. >> who yields time? i want to bring in dana bash. does it sound like they've broken off all talks. they've said, okay, that's it, i've made my proposal, you've made yours, we're too far apart. >> i wouldn't say they've broken off all talks. but what i will say is that this is very, very bad news, a very bad sign. as you and i talked about at the top of the hour, it is, it is good news or a good sign when we don't, we in the media don't hear a lot of what's going on in private. when either side decides to come out and say that there is a major setback or there is a big problem, that's a big red flag. the fact is that the republican leader came out and he said he wants to dance. close to a deal. he just n
shown absolutely good faith in just that we're a part on some pretty big issues. >> that was harry reid, the senate majority leader representing the democratic side of things. from the sound of both men, it appears that they are at an impasse. and certainly not optimistic when it comes to trying to reach any kind of any negotiated settlement right now. 6 we'll continue to listen in here. >> who yields time? i want to bring in dana bash. does it sound like they've broken off all...
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harry reid has been meeting with his caucus. republicans have been meeting on their side and the senate should be coming back in this afternoon as well. what would you give up in the fiscal cliff negotiations? let's go first to bridgeport, connecticut. thanks for waiting. >> i was thinking the republicans should drop the cpi issue that they have been discussing. it seems to me that they're working on getting it worked our for the estate tax. >> the chain on the consumer price index was a point of contention raised on the house floor. the reporting from politico earlier about the loggerheads' this afternoon, they say that the provision would result in lower payments for social security beneficiaries. boston, the independent go ahead. >> most companies in the u.s. are now headquartered in toronto. they make their profit in bermuda. we're spending 47 cents on the dollar on the deficit. we will have to do like canada and put a tax on gasoline. what is your opinion? what should we do to fulfill the debt and our obligation? >> what is
harry reid has been meeting with his caucus. republicans have been meeting on their side and the senate should be coming back in this afternoon as well. what would you give up in the fiscal cliff negotiations? let's go first to bridgeport, connecticut. thanks for waiting. >> i was thinking the republicans should drop the cpi issue that they have been discussing. it seems to me that they're working on getting it worked our for the estate tax. >> the chain on the consumer price index...
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are expecting to hear from republican leader mitch mcconnell, maybe even senate majority leader harry reid, as of now so far as we know there is no fiscal cliff deal, but negotiations primarily betweens those two men are going on even as we speak or between their staffs. we're hearing a new sense of optimism from some senate members who believe they might be able to pass some kind of minimalist package that would keep tax rates from going up on the majority of americans. i want to go to capitol hill and cnn's senior congressional correspondent dana bash. dana, is that the sense you get that somehow we should be optimistic about whatever it is that's going on? >> you know, as we talked about before, you definitely get a feeling or the atmosphere here is that there is progress being made but in the same breath, but, there are still thingsing to worked out. as we wait for what we generally see when the senate opens which is the pledge of allegiance, a prayer and so forth, if you see the bottom of your screen, i'm not sure if you can see it, white hair, that is harry reid, the senate majority
are expecting to hear from republican leader mitch mcconnell, maybe even senate majority leader harry reid, as of now so far as we know there is no fiscal cliff deal, but negotiations primarily betweens those two men are going on even as we speak or between their staffs. we're hearing a new sense of optimism from some senate members who believe they might be able to pass some kind of minimalist package that would keep tax rates from going up on the majority of americans. i want to go to capitol...
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we have a loose deadline of 3:00 that reid and mcconnell had. what are you hearing as the clock ticks about where they are in negotiations? you said to me a moment ago, you are aware of a few sticking points. give us the latest. >> there are a few key sticking points. you know, it really does come down to the same thing. when you get done with the whole package, have we shifted taxes or are the wealthy getting their fair share? we get into estate tax where there's a debate about do the wealthy pay their fair share or shift it to the middle class. frankly, we have had two years of debating, running up to deadlines, putting faith and credit of the country on the line. each time, we agreed to spending cuts. now a total of $1.6 trillion in spending cuts that mainly hit the middle class, low income people, seniors and we still don't have any contribution from the wealthiest americans. that's the line in the sand for us. we know we need to go further on a lot of fronts. you have to start by everybody sacrificing and paying their fair share. >> you may
we have a loose deadline of 3:00 that reid and mcconnell had. what are you hearing as the clock ticks about where they are in negotiations? you said to me a moment ago, you are aware of a few sticking points. give us the latest. >> there are a few key sticking points. you know, it really does come down to the same thing. when you get done with the whole package, have we shifted taxes or are the wealthy getting their fair share? we get into estate tax where there's a debate about do the...
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senator harry reid has not passed budgets. president obama's budgets have been voted on 3 times, the final vote tally, 0-610. so getting back to your first question, have i seen a plan out of this president that would be an obvious yes from us? i haven't seen any specific plan. all i have seen is demagoguery and a few numbers thrown out, whether it's $800 billion over 10 years or $1 of revenue for $3 of spending cuts, but nothing specific that we need to see to hammer this thing out. >> he says the onus is on congress, this is your job to get done. he said in the clip we just had, if it doesn't get done, the people who are going to pay are the senior who is will lose out on benefits that they are enjoying. is that an accurate representation of what will happen? >> no! this country needs presidential leadership. the house has passed two budgets that would spend $7 trillion less than what president obama's budgets were proposed at. again, remember president obama's budgets didn't get a vote from a member of his own party. we do
senator harry reid has not passed budgets. president obama's budgets have been voted on 3 times, the final vote tally, 0-610. so getting back to your first question, have i seen a plan out of this president that would be an obvious yes from us? i haven't seen any specific plan. all i have seen is demagoguery and a few numbers thrown out, whether it's $800 billion over 10 years or $1 of revenue for $3 of spending cuts, but nothing specific that we need to see to hammer this thing out. >>...
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involved with this as any senator in the united states senate, other than mitch mcconnell and harry reid. i have never seen those cuts, so i'd love to take those up on the senate floor. let me just say this, like every american, i'm disgusted with where we are. i know people are irritated at the president, they're irritated at congress, as they should be. there's no question that in the next few days or next few weeks, we're going to rescue most of the american people from a tax increase. we're going to do it. better to do it over the next day or two. but what hasn't happened in this debate is any discussion about real reductions, reforms in medicare and social security, to save those. i think that is totally irresponsible. >> but there's -- look, here's where we are. there is not time for you to reform entitlements between now and midnight on the 31st. so here is your choice. you either allow tax rates to go up on everyone -- >> we're going to deal with that. >> or try to protect some people. >> i would bet my life over the next very short period of time, 98 to 99% of the people in the
involved with this as any senator in the united states senate, other than mitch mcconnell and harry reid. i have never seen those cuts, so i'd love to take those up on the senate floor. let me just say this, like every american, i'm disgusted with where we are. i know people are irritated at the president, they're irritated at congress, as they should be. there's no question that in the next few days or next few weeks, we're going to rescue most of the american people from a tax increase. we're...
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>> reporter: he and harry reid are working on scaled-down agreement that focuses on avoiding a middle-class tax hike. the plan is to present it to the full senate for a vote on sunday and send it to the house and hoax john boehner was at the capitol and left with no comment. both sides remain at odds over the democrat's insistence that the wealthy pay more in taxes. >> the president's tax hook would only fund the government for eight days. americans deserve to know what is the president -- what does the president propose we do for the other 357 days of the year. >> reporter: president obama insists his plan on the table is fair and includes plenty of cuts to government spending. >> we just can't afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> reporter: if sunday's negotiations don't pan out, the president said he's ready to propose his own scaled-back bill that would block tax increases for all but the wealthy. and preserve expiring unemployment benefits. with the deficit ticking ever higher, patience is wearing thin. >> for those of us who invest in the stock market, it's disg
>> reporter: he and harry reid are working on scaled-down agreement that focuses on avoiding a middle-class tax hike. the plan is to present it to the full senate for a vote on sunday and send it to the house and hoax john boehner was at the capitol and left with no comment. both sides remain at odds over the democrat's insistence that the wealthy pay more in taxes. >> the president's tax hook would only fund the government for eight days. americans deserve to know what is the...
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kron 4's alecia reid tells us more. (cheers & applause) (chanting ) lsu >> it is awesome! >> i am very pleased the way that they have played it is a great day for the sun devil nation (music) (cheers & applause) >> reporter: the fans also cheered on of their navy stea team. >> that is what i am insane, go and navy. >> they picked up an early lead. >> we predicted that they would win by 14 points, just two touchdowns. >> the game was over by the third quarter. >> it was great to see the navy fans walk out, early. >> it was a blow out. >> sorry! >> reporter: many travel from long-distance. >> we are from hawaii. >> we came all the way from the state of washington. >> we came from the state of oregon. >> everybody being a boat to come together, go doubles. everybody-being able to come together, go devils... this helps hunkhonke this goal of ths came is the craf kraft hunger game... >>> a new york woman has been charged with a hate crime for allegedly pushing a man to his death in front of a subway train. police say the surveillance video they released helped find erika menend
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plan b, clancy, -- plan c, and now he is seated negotiants to harry reid. -- negotiations to harry reid. it is certainly possible that he may have trouble getting reelected as speaker. he may get 20 or so to party boats to vote against them or not vote at all. i could stop him from being reelected. host: what are the pitfalls for harry reid and mitch mcconnell? guest: mcconnell is up for reelection in 2014. if he agrees with the white house on something, particularly tax increases, it will hurt him in his election. remember rand paul -- mcconnell has less room to maneuver. for harry reid, a lot of his reputation is on the line. can he put something on the floor of the senate that some democrats will support? guest: the biggest loser is the unemployed and those trying to get jobs. that is what this is about. really, people need to step back and realize, while we are concerned about deficits, it is because it is a concern about the economy. there are different prescriptions for the economy at different times. allowing this recovery to slow down, even as it has already been anemic, would b
plan b, clancy, -- plan c, and now he is seated negotiants to harry reid. -- negotiations to harry reid. it is certainly possible that he may have trouble getting reelected as speaker. he may get 20 or so to party boats to vote against them or not vote at all. i could stop him from being reelected. host: what are the pitfalls for harry reid and mitch mcconnell? guest: mcconnell is up for reelection in 2014. if he agrees with the white house on something, particularly tax increases, it will hurt...
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what's happening right now is harry reid and mitch mcconnell, the top democrat, top republican in the senate, are still negotiating their staffs at this hour. they are supposed to be working until about 3:00 this afternoon when the plan would be presented to both caucuses. as we understand what they are talking about is the bare minimum. basically the senate negotiating to extend those tax cuts for everybody making under $250,000 a year and to extend unemployment benefits. also they're talking about trying to do something to stop the automatic spending cuts that go into effect, but don't expect a deal on that. now, dan, if a deal can be reached today, the senate would begin looking at it, begin debating it, and then you would see a vote tomorrow in the senate and possibly a vote tomorrow in the house because as you know, if we get to tuesday without any of this happening, off the cliff. >> and, jon, you say off the cliff by tuesday, just two days left. how damaging would it be if we do indeed go off the cliff even if we bungee jump back up a few days or weeks after with a mini deal? >
what's happening right now is harry reid and mitch mcconnell, the top democrat, top republican in the senate, are still negotiating their staffs at this hour. they are supposed to be working until about 3:00 this afternoon when the plan would be presented to both caucuses. as we understand what they are talking about is the bare minimum. basically the senate negotiating to extend those tax cuts for everybody making under $250,000 a year and to extend unemployment benefits. also they're talking...
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. >> majority leader harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell say they're confident they come to a compromise but they have to sell it to john boehner and fellow republicans before the deadline. >> president obama will be david gregory's exclusive guest on "meet the press" later this morning. you can watch his interview at 10:00 a.m. former president george h.w. bush is out of intensive care and said to be improving this morning. he is in a regular room at houston methodist hospital. a family spokesperson says the family thanks everyone for their prayers and good wishes. he is being treated for a cough. a lawyer for one of the survivors of the newtown school massacre says the state of connecticut didn't do enough to keep kids safe and wants to sue for $100 million. the attorney says the state failed to provide a safe setting for his clintd, an unidentified 6-year-old girl. he says after hearing gunfire, she was left with emotional scars. to howard county where police say they've cracked a string of burglaries that hit homes in columbia and ellicott city. nadia ramdass has the sto
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fiscal cliff and now we are in the midst of a lot of last-ditch bargaining between the senate leaders, reid and mcconnell, what are the chances for a small deal in the next, less than 48 hours to avoid the cliff. >> exceedingly good. i think people don't want to go over the cliff, if we can avoid it. i think, whatever we accomplish, political victory to the president, hats off to him, he stood his ground and will get tax increases, maybe not 250 but upper income americans and the sad news is we have accomplished little, in terms of not becoming greece, that bill will not affect the debt situation and it will be a a political victory for the president and i hope we have courage of our convictions, when it comes to raise the debt ceiling to fight what we believe as republicans. hats off to the president, he won. >> chris: quick follow-up, before we turn to senator feinstein, you said you don't think your conservative colleagues in the senate will filibuster or set up a procedural roadblock, they'll vote to avoid going over the cliff. >> if mcconnell can't get 60% of us to vote for the deal it
fiscal cliff and now we are in the midst of a lot of last-ditch bargaining between the senate leaders, reid and mcconnell, what are the chances for a small deal in the next, less than 48 hours to avoid the cliff. >> exceedingly good. i think people don't want to go over the cliff, if we can avoid it. i think, whatever we accomplish, political victory to the president, hats off to him, he stood his ground and will get tax increases, maybe not 250 but upper income americans and the sad news...
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harry reid has hunls of bills bottled up. the idea that one bill is entitled, well, in fact, both the senator and i would love to have some things unbottled for an up or down vote. it's not the process or fair to divide america. >> i've got to run. to be continued. i hope you'll come back. thank you so much. thank you all for being here. i appreciate it. >>> up next, why neglecting rural america could be costly for everyone. later, the washington game that never gets old. >> kicking the can down the road. >> we're not going to address it by kicking the can down the road. >> kick the can down the road when it comes to solving the larger problem of our deficit. s, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you want to run through it again? no, i'm good. you got it? yes. rates for us and them -- now that's progressive. call or click today. but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your
harry reid has hunls of bills bottled up. the idea that one bill is entitled, well, in fact, both the senator and i would love to have some things unbottled for an up or down vote. it's not the process or fair to divide america. >> i've got to run. to be continued. i hope you'll come back. thank you so much. thank you all for being here. i appreciate it. >>> up next, why neglecting rural america could be costly for everyone. later, the washington game that never gets old....
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harry reid made that point on the senate floor last week because who knows. maybe there's a few dozen conservatives in the house who don't want this guy to be speaker. i wonder, you're with the tea party. do you want two more years of john boehner as house speaker? >> there are a group of people that are focused on that but i don't think that's our real focus. our real focus is ringing in the out of control spending and living within our means. that's what most people are concerned about. get rid of john boehner, who else are we going to get? i mean, we lost the election. elections have consequences. we're not going to get everything we want. but we need to focus on the real issue of our debt and deficit. instead of focusing on the power of who's in charge in the republican party and the democratic party and who's winning of the two parties? >> let me ask you, you're focusing on the deficit here. if we do nothing with if there's no deal in the next few days, and we do nothing in the first few weeks and there's no patch in the first few weeks of the new year t
harry reid made that point on the senate floor last week because who knows. maybe there's a few dozen conservatives in the house who don't want this guy to be speaker. i wonder, you're with the tea party. do you want two more years of john boehner as house speaker? >> there are a group of people that are focused on that but i don't think that's our real focus. our real focus is ringing in the out of control spending and living within our means. that's what most people are concerned about....
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. >> reporter: sources closest to the talk tell harry reid and mitch mcconnell are working to draft a plan that will include extending unemployment benefits and keeping 30 million americans from paying the alternative minimum tax and allowing taxes to increase on the wealthiest americans. this remains a major sticking point for many republicans. some say a small deal is better than no deal at all but represents a lack of leadership. >> they haven't taken any of the hard measures to bring spending down and reform entitlements and raise more revenues. >> reporter: now, late saturday, negotiators continued to haggle over a number of issues, particularly the issue of taxes. republican leader, mitch mcconnell, was spotted at the capital. when asked if they would reach a deal, he told reporters, quote, i hope so. erica? >> many americans hoping so too. >>> david gregory is moderator of "meet the press." good morning. >> good morning, erica. >> you sat down with an exclusive interview with the president. did he seem optimistic to you? >> he says he is optimistic but really preparing to play
. >> reporter: sources closest to the talk tell harry reid and mitch mcconnell are working to draft a plan that will include extending unemployment benefits and keeping 30 million americans from paying the alternative minimum tax and allowing taxes to increase on the wealthiest americans. this remains a major sticking point for many republicans. some say a small deal is better than no deal at all but represents a lack of leadership. >> they haven't taken any of the hard measures to...
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in case those discussions break down, the president has asked democratic leader harry reid to prepare a separate bill to put on the floor of the senate that would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. that's really a democratic proposal, and you can expect republicans to block it. rather than thinking of that as a stop gap measure, you should probably think of it it as a political measure to shift the responsibility for failure onto republicans just before the nation hits the hour of reckoning. alison. >> thanks. with everyone from the president to republican leaders expressing hope for a deal by tomorrow night, at least one congressman says the chances look slim to none. listen to virginia democrat jim moran as he describes why he'll likely vote against a deal. >> my congressional district would be the hardest-hit if we go over the fiscal cliff. i have tens of thousands of federal employees and a great deal of defense spending would be at risk. so if we don't suspend the sequester and it looks like this very small deal may not even achieve that, then i'd have to be a
in case those discussions break down, the president has asked democratic leader harry reid to prepare a separate bill to put on the floor of the senate that would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. that's really a democratic proposal, and you can expect republicans to block it. rather than thinking of that as a stop gap measure, you should probably think of it it as a political measure to shift the responsibility for failure onto republicans just before the nation hits the...
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so if harry reid and mr. mcconnell can't come up with something, then you've got barack obama's proposal and the up or down vote and one way oar the over, he's going to get them on the record. >> joy, even before he gets to the house, there are plenty of republicans in the senate who can mess this up, right? even if they have a deal, there's no guarantee that there isn't a deal, tea-party backed senator. >> are you giving rand paul the side eye here? >> i had him in mind. that's true. >> at the end of the day, mitch mcconnell is a much better leader of his caucus than john boehner is and he's really controlled the levers of the filibuster process. i would find that very surprising if he couldn't win his caucus. the problem is here never have we seen, not in my lifetime, a weaker speaker of the house of representatives than john boehner. john boehner has essentially thrown up his hands and walked away from the congress and the main da mandate and he's essentially said, you guys pass something. it's the house t
so if harry reid and mr. mcconnell can't come up with something, then you've got barack obama's proposal and the up or down vote and one way oar the over, he's going to get them on the record. >> joy, even before he gets to the house, there are plenty of republicans in the senate who can mess this up, right? even if they have a deal, there's no guarantee that there isn't a deal, tea-party backed senator. >> are you giving rand paul the side eye here? >> i had him in mind....
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in case those discussions break down, the president asked harry reid to prepare a separate bill to put on the floor of the senate that would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. now, that's really a democratic proposal and you could expect republicans to block it, so, rather than thinking of that as a stop gap measure, probably think of it as a political measure to shift the responsibility for failure on to republicans just before the nation hits the hour of wreckening. alison? >> thanks. >>> lawmakers could vote as early as today and when it happens, you can watch live coverage right here on cnn. >>> the president will continue to plead his case for a deal today. he's making his first appearance on a sunday talk show in more than three years. he'll be on nbc's "meet the press." he'll call for an immediately vote for congress on a scale-back plan that would only extend middle class tax breaks if the negotiations fail. >>> other news now, second degree murder as a hate crime. that's the charge facing erica menendez. she is the woman accused of shoving a man to his death
in case those discussions break down, the president asked harry reid to prepare a separate bill to put on the floor of the senate that would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. now, that's really a democratic proposal and you could expect republicans to block it, so, rather than thinking of that as a stop gap measure, probably think of it as a political measure to shift the responsibility for failure on to republicans just before the nation hits the hour of wreckening. alison?...
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now we're talking about reid and mcconnell and the senate. has john boehner been deemed powerless by the developments and what the house voted and did not vote on that million dollars threshold? >> well, i don't know that i'd say powerless because if it does pass the senate he becomes quite powerful, but he's definitely on the sidelines on this president, and that may be just as well, quite frankly because i have to say if you bet on boehner and obama getting into a room together and making a deal, you'd have lost a lot of money over the last couple of years. on the other hand, when reid and mcdonnell, the two senate leaders get into a room together, they somehow seem to be able to find an accommodation. i think there's much more for compromise with the senate leaders. let them make a deal, i'm sure reid is talking to the president and conversely, mcconnell is talking to boehner what they can go for, but probably to have the actual deal making going on between the two senate leaders. >> dave: chris, i want to say farewell, last time i'll chat
now we're talking about reid and mcconnell and the senate. has john boehner been deemed powerless by the developments and what the house voted and did not vote on that million dollars threshold? >> well, i don't know that i'd say powerless because if it does pass the senate he becomes quite powerful, but he's definitely on the sidelines on this president, and that may be just as well, quite frankly because i have to say if you bet on boehner and obama getting into a room together and...
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. >> majority leader harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell say they're confident they come to a compromise but they have to sell it to john boehner and fellow republicans before the deadline. >> president obama will be david gregory's exclusive guest on "meet the press" later this morning. you can watch his interview at 10:00 a.m. the nation'sup for gun show in delles this weekend. this weekend, organizers say there was overwhelming interest. in the wake of the sandy hook shootings, many people said they wanted to buy assault rifles before a possible ban. >> say something should happen and we no longer have right to purchase our guns, that means somebody got off this butt and decided to change the constitution, that will open the door to a lot of issues. >> the f.b.i. reported a record background checks for guns this year. a lawyer for one of the survivors of the newtown school massacre says the state and connecticut didn't do enough to keep the kids safe. lawyer irving pinsky said the state failed to provide a safe climate for his client's daughter. to howard county where pol
. >> majority leader harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell say they're confident they come to a compromise but they have to sell it to john boehner and fellow republicans before the deadline. >> president obama will be david gregory's exclusive guest on "meet the press" later this morning. you can watch his interview at 10:00 a.m. the nation'sup for gun show in delles this weekend. this weekend, organizers say there was overwhelming interest. in the wake of the...
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senate majory leader harry reid, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. they are trying to come up with something that can pass the house and the senate. the president laid out a proposal earlier this evening. at the beginning of this meeting. $250,000 per year. that income would be shielded from tax increases, and now he wants an extension of unemployment insurance. that is something that essentially a nonstarter in a republican-controlled house. now he is leaving it up to the two leaders in the u.s. senate try to reach a compromise. something perhaps along the line of what is being negotiated between the speaker and the president a couple of weeks ago. perhaps a tax increase for amounts of more than $400,000 or $500,000 per year. also, senate leaders want to includsomething on the este tax, according to a white house official. we'll can also be key to this is that the white house officials are also telling fox news and ed henry that it appears as though the debt ceiling is not part of that. this is a huge nonstarter for republicans in the house. they wa
senate majory leader harry reid, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. they are trying to come up with something that can pass the house and the senate. the president laid out a proposal earlier this evening. at the beginning of this meeting. $250,000 per year. that income would be shielded from tax increases, and now he wants an extension of unemployment insurance. that is something that essentially a nonstarter in a republican-controlled house. now he is leaving it up to the two leaders in...
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reid and dr. armanda for advice. >> the biggest thing we're doing differently now is not trying to remove every fragment of bone or piece of metal penetrating into the cranual vault compared to previous conflicts, we're doing a larger incision. typically, we'll leave half of the skull off anywhere between 4 to six months and it's longer than a civilian sector. >> reporter: during the 12 years while limb prosthetics improved dramatically for the wounded warrior, so have skull prosthetics, going fromplastic to a new and improved titanium resisting infection and allows better facial reconstruction for the patient. one of the patients works for him and he is a former special operator medic who was blown up in january 2009. his skull was smashed when he was thrown into a concrete mall. >> -- wall. >> it's like swimming with false clothing on. can you do it but you're not as efficient and you slower and takes a hard time to get there and you awkward. until the brain actually catches up with what you wan
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>> it depends really what mcconnell and reid really broker. if it's something that's a good deal that we can move to the new year and start looking at structural entitlement reform, then we'll take it. i completely disagree with alexis, by the way. the president is not showing leadership with this deal. what he's trying to do is push the blame on the house republicans and break them. he's not interested in just winning this issue. he's interested in getting his agenda through which includes more regulation, gun control possibly, and immigration reform. all he wants to do is win the blame game. he's not interested in leadership because if he was interested in leadership, he would have brokered from the beginning in good faith and because he just ignores entitlement reform, he's kidding himself. >> heather: alexis, i'll let you respond to that. because when it comes to spending cuts, president obama says his own, his own words, quote, lays the groundwork for that in the future. the last big budget deal in the summer of 2011, it ended with precis
>> it depends really what mcconnell and reid really broker. if it's something that's a good deal that we can move to the new year and start looking at structural entitlement reform, then we'll take it. i completely disagree with alexis, by the way. the president is not showing leadership with this deal. what he's trying to do is push the blame on the house republicans and break them. he's not interested in just winning this issue. he's interested in getting his agenda through which...
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senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. >> and as we speak, rich edson is live in washington with the very latet. >> well, it's up to the senate. staffers and a majority leader harry reid, minority lead mitch mcconnell are trying to negotiate a scaled-down debt deal to avoid some of the fiscal cliff and take other major decisions on taxes and spending to the fuure. again, in an afternoon white house meeting president obama pitch a debt plan he had outlined a week ago, prevent a tax increase for income of less than to an effective thousand dollars per year and extend long-term unemployment benefits. senate leaders are using that framework to try to craft a proposal to pass both houses of congress. aides say it would likely increase the threshold for tax increases, reversing massive pay cut from medicare doctors, and elections of millions of americans to avoid paying the alternative minimum tax. an increase in the debt ceiling is not part of the discussion. that is significant development for house republicans who won any increase in the borrowing limit it
senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. >> and as we speak, rich edson is live in washington with the very latet. >> well, it's up to the senate. staffers and a majority leader harry reid, minority lead mitch mcconnell are trying to negotiate a scaled-down debt deal to avoid some of the fiscal cliff and take other major decisions on taxes and spending to the fuure. again, in an afternoon white house meeting president obama pitch a debt plan he had...
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just how much all this would cost going into senator reid's office and then that payment heading over to the republican side. manila envelopes changing hands. so all that is a good sign that there are discussions and progress being made, at least they are talking, don. things could be worse. >> okay. so this may be a little bit redid you know danlt, but i want you to go in specifically for me. president obama says he wants another plan put to a vote if the senate fails to come up with a plan. so what is the president's plan, and will republican leaders let that happen? >> well, okay. so senate majority leader harry reid, a democrat, has crafted an alternative proposal that he has -- saying he will put -- if the negotiations i just described fail and if the senators cannot come to a bipartisan agreement, then the democratic leader is going to put on the floor a democratic proposal that would extend tax rates for households that make $250,000 and less. hatch the alternative minimum tax and extend unemployment insurance. so that's a democratic proposal. the problem with that is, you can
just how much all this would cost going into senator reid's office and then that payment heading over to the republican side. manila envelopes changing hands. so all that is a good sign that there are discussions and progress being made, at least they are talking, don. things could be worse. >> okay. so this may be a little bit redid you know danlt, but i want you to go in specifically for me. president obama says he wants another plan put to a vote if the senate fails to come up with a...
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are you confident that senators reid and mcconnell can come to a deal? >> no, i'm not confident at all. i know they're going to give it their best shot, and i wish god speed to them. i can tell you that on january 1st in oregon, we will have about 29 to 30,000 folks who will lose unemployment benefits, and they'll lose them right in the middle of their tiers. it isn't as if it's planned or graduated. it's sudden. it's like cutting people off at the knees. and over the coming 30 days in january, we'll lose another 10,000. and that's 40,000 families, not only are they decimated by this, but they're going to be impacted -- the communities will be impacted by the loss of spending from those families. so that's just one little piece of this. there's so many other pieces. it's urgent that these issues be addressed. it's regretful that we're here at this last moment. >> i'm really glad you brought up unemployment benefits. we'll be talking about those a bit later in the show. senator jeff merkley of oregon, thank you so much for being with us on a friday night
are you confident that senators reid and mcconnell can come to a deal? >> no, i'm not confident at all. i know they're going to give it their best shot, and i wish god speed to them. i can tell you that on january 1st in oregon, we will have about 29 to 30,000 folks who will lose unemployment benefits, and they'll lose them right in the middle of their tiers. it isn't as if it's planned or graduated. it's sudden. it's like cutting people off at the knees. and over the coming 30 days in...
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i think the senate -- senator reid is amazing at gettin' republican votes on things when he needs to get it. this is one of the times where he'll need to get it because speaker boehner will not be able to pass anything with the majority of his caucus as proved last week. i think there will be enough pressure not to be the one going over the cliff. 'cause if they waiting to over the cliff, there will be more democratic votes in the senate, more democratic votes in the house. and they could quickly get to fixing the tax problem a day or two after the new congress is sworn in on thursday the 3rd. >> arthel: as michael alluded to, the wheeling and dealing, we know it's going on on both sides of the aisle, burr there is also that intraparty negotiations that's happening. so what would you see are the deal breakers inside the democratic party as well as inside the gop party? >> listen, i really think that they should look at this and look at the fact that when you raise taxes, people have less money to spend. you're harming the middle class, the class that obama is claiming that he wants t
i think the senate -- senator reid is amazing at gettin' republican votes on things when he needs to get it. this is one of the times where he'll need to get it because speaker boehner will not be able to pass anything with the majority of his caucus as proved last week. i think there will be enough pressure not to be the one going over the cliff. 'cause if they waiting to over the cliff, there will be more democratic votes in the senate, more democratic votes in the house. and they could...
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we assume harry reid is here and their staffs are going back and forth. i spoke to one aide who said don't expect for any details to leak tonight. they'll be closed-lipped about this because the idea if anything does leak out it gives more of an opportunity for folks on either party to kill a deal if they don't like what they hear. some sort of a agreement will be announced tomorrow when the house is back in session and the senate is back in session and they can go back to say hey, this is the best opportunity. as far as the likelihood of this kraig, things have not been going well and there's optimism here and there and things are fluid like kristen says and it will be the final deal, but what we do know is these folks on capitol hill are very mindful of the damage that can be done to the economy if nothing is brief. we've had five down days in the stock market and we're preparing the country on tuesday for the first tax increase in 20 years, and i think finally at the end, that's starting to resonate at least with some of the elder members of both sides
we assume harry reid is here and their staffs are going back and forth. i spoke to one aide who said don't expect for any details to leak tonight. they'll be closed-lipped about this because the idea if anything does leak out it gives more of an opportunity for folks on either party to kill a deal if they don't like what they hear. some sort of a agreement will be announced tomorrow when the house is back in session and the senate is back in session and they can go back to say hey, this is the...
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harry reid was sounding the death knell. what happened yesterday, david? >> congressional leaders came to the white house and had direct talks with the president and john boehner continues to say, look, new it's up to the senate to take action and so there is -- what was noticed on these negotiations and the question is go going, and that's the sticking point and we're waiting to see what happens and we're running out of time and as the other guests have said, it will be up to the house to see if they can get it through. >> i want to throw it up on the screen so folks at home can appreciate when we're talking about and what it will mean for people if no deal is reached. the bush tax cuts expire for all americans. that means everyone's taxes go up. the payroll tax holiday will expire which means roughly $1,000 decrease in take home pay for the the average worker. unemployment insurance goes away for more than 2 million people. the sequester as well, $110 billion in automatic spending cuts to defense and other domestic programs. that's going kick in, as well
harry reid was sounding the death knell. what happened yesterday, david? >> congressional leaders came to the white house and had direct talks with the president and john boehner continues to say, look, new it's up to the senate to take action and so there is -- what was noticed on these negotiations and the question is go going, and that's the sticking point and we're waiting to see what happens and we're running out of time and as the other guests have said, it will be up to the house...
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senator reid is not here yet. it does seem like the republicans are perhaps either working with other republicans or working out the details of this possible deal. i think we're in the real working hours right now, and perhaps the less said by these major players at least for the moment, the better. >> the yes, well, let's hope that's the case. jessica, both sides still seem to be aways from what they want and everyone seems to be saying no one is going to get 100% of what they want, right? >> it's a compromise. everybody knows that at this point. i know the staffs of the two leaders are in touch and contacting each other trying to get closer. i can tell you what democrats want is, as you know and the president has made clear, a tax increase for people who make households that make $250,000 and more. an extension of unemployment benefits that affects some 2 million americans or so, a delay in those massive spending cuts that congress put into a package a year ago. increase in the estate tax. now, what do republica
senator reid is not here yet. it does seem like the republicans are perhaps either working with other republicans or working out the details of this possible deal. i think we're in the real working hours right now, and perhaps the less said by these major players at least for the moment, the better. >> the yes, well, let's hope that's the case. jessica, both sides still seem to be aways from what they want and everyone seems to be saying no one is going to get 100% of what they want,...
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let senators reid and mcconnell really resolve this together. and those are, as i said, two men who know how to work things out. speaker boehner stepping out of it at this point because he has not been able to produce a deal to date and it's not on his shoulders. and nancy pelosi is the one who's going to have to car ray lot of this weight if it gets anywhere in the house because she'll have to deliver a lot of votes. the president not at his maximum frustration level, i have to say, still seeming a little enthusiastic. >> jessica yellin, thanks so much. ken, i want to ask you, you're an expert on economic crises. yol want to have to use your expertise ever again. we're not going to a crisis, hopefully, as a result of this. what's your best advice in terms of keeping the economy on track? what's the best compromise everybody can come out with if they know it will help the economy? >> well, we'd like to see tax reform. we'd like to see washington do things like infrastructure, cut back on spending. it's dysfunctional. that's what's so dishearteni
let senators reid and mcconnell really resolve this together. and those are, as i said, two men who know how to work things out. speaker boehner stepping out of it at this point because he has not been able to produce a deal to date and it's not on his shoulders. and nancy pelosi is the one who's going to have to car ray lot of this weight if it gets anywhere in the house because she'll have to deliver a lot of votes. the president not at his maximum frustration level, i have to say, still...
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it's up to harry reid to do what he needs to do. so i would suggest that's been a point of frustration. hopefully we're now seeing that get resolved. >> last word. those bills aren't going anywhere in the senate. the voters were very clear they want a balanced approach. they believe the wealthy should pay a little bit more and that middle class families should get a tax increase. that's what they voted for, i believe, in the last election. that's not what the republicans are standing up for right now. >> david, doug, gentlemen, i appreciate you both being here. and it is. it's a shame we're to this point, just a few days out and americans are worried right now about what their paychecks are going to look like the first couple of weeks of january. but thank you both so much. hopefully this gets worked out. you all have a happy new year. >> happy new year. >> about 42 minutes past the hour now. >>> want to turn to number five on our first five web stories. beyonce' is looking for co-stars in her super bowl halftime show. pepsi is runn
it's up to harry reid to do what he needs to do. so i would suggest that's been a point of frustration. hopefully we're now seeing that get resolved. >> last word. those bills aren't going anywhere in the senate. the voters were very clear they want a balanced approach. they believe the wealthy should pay a little bit more and that middle class families should get a tax increase. that's what they voted for, i believe, in the last election. that's not what the republicans are standing up...
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majority leader hairy reid warns that whatever they come up with will be imperfect. >> days after a major storm. the northeast is getting hit with another one. this will not be a block well buster. but could make it tough on people ready to travel between christmas and new years. state of maine . stame-sex couples are saying i doportland held special hour to accommodate waiting couples and finally washington may be divide over the fiscal cliff but will be united sunday night around the television site. jim moran admits they will be watching another battle, washington and dallas play tomorrow night. we'll be voting sunday night and probably watching the skins cowboy gave in the cloak room. >> the title game starts tomorrow night . those are the top stories, molly, back to you >> december, and watching football matters. >> they will have a nice wet field since it is it pouring wet snow. >> are you praying that rg3's knees are okay. >> thee is a tough kid. >> we need a big performance. >> president obama gave senate leaders a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. if we go over the cliff, many of y
majority leader hairy reid warns that whatever they come up with will be imperfect. >> days after a major storm. the northeast is getting hit with another one. this will not be a block well buster. but could make it tough on people ready to travel between christmas and new years. state of maine . stame-sex couples are saying i doportland held special hour to accommodate waiting couples and finally washington may be divide over the fiscal cliff but will be united sunday night around the...
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reid and mcconnell, they really are the focus in the senate. in the house, it's speaker john boehner. i've got to ask you, is his job on the line if republicans balk at any deal that's reached? >> no, not at all. speaker boehner is extremely strong. his conferences support him and knows that he's been in a tough position trying to negotiate the fiscal deal with the president. he's been doing this for weeks, month, working on this deal. and you know, they gave it a shot. they tried their best. the house, you know, house republicans wouldn't go for it. and said, you know, it's up to the senate. and once -- if the senate passes something, the house now will consider it. so i -- i do think that the speaker is in a very strong position. and besides, this is a very difficult job. i don't see many republicans standing up and wanting to take speaker boehner on. not many other people could do the job like speaker boehner is. >> i agree. i see you saying that. think about it, he didn't look good when plan b couldn't go to a vote. how can he be strong in
reid and mcconnell, they really are the focus in the senate. in the house, it's speaker john boehner. i've got to ask you, is his job on the line if republicans balk at any deal that's reached? >> no, not at all. speaker boehner is extremely strong. his conferences support him and knows that he's been in a tough position trying to negotiate the fiscal deal with the president. he's been doing this for weeks, month, working on this deal. and you know, they gave it a shot. they tried their...
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. >> senators reid and mcconnell are discussing a potential agreement to where we can get a bipartisan bill out of the senate over to the house and done in a timely fashion so that we met the december 31st deadline. but, given how things have been working this this town, we always have to wait and see until it actually happens. >> so there you have it. there will be a deal when there is a deal. i think that is howie mandel had been at the meeting, perhaps thing things have gone better, because he could have given the nation's leaders a lesson on probability 101. this is what we know are the the his own fiscal cliff show. most of the contestants make a choice not dealing with the real world mathematical probabilities of the situation they are in. contestants don't look at the innate silver, but they are driven by their emotions. contestants behave in more risky ways and taking bigger chances when less likely to pay off when prior expectations have been shattered by eliminating prior briefcases or other expectations have been surpassed by opening low-value briefcases. in other words, con
. >> senators reid and mcconnell are discussing a potential agreement to where we can get a bipartisan bill out of the senate over to the house and done in a timely fashion so that we met the december 31st deadline. but, given how things have been working this this town, we always have to wait and see until it actually happens. >> so there you have it. there will be a deal when there is a deal. i think that is howie mandel had been at the meeting, perhaps thing things have gone...
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that's where harry reid will be starting things today. he also is planning to include an extension of unemployment benefits. the unemployment benefits actually run out today. that fiscal cliff we've already reached. that is going to be in this starting point deal. now, things we're less clear on. for example, the budget cuts that are impending for most of government, and also the debt ceiling. those are two items that we think may not be in a deal. may be kicked down the road. either those budget cuts will hit and will last, or there will be a different fix later. that's where things seem to be right now, but those are a little bit more up in the air. >> lisa, does that extension for tax cuts for everyone over $250,000, is that for households or for individuals? >> that $250,000 is for individuals. >> okay, okay. i see. so how long do lawmakers have to make a deal at this point? >> right. i just want to make sure we're clear. they want to extend the tax cuts for people whose family income is under $250,000. so people making above that wou
that's where harry reid will be starting things today. he also is planning to include an extension of unemployment benefits. the unemployment benefits actually run out today. that fiscal cliff we've already reached. that is going to be in this starting point deal. now, things we're less clear on. for example, the budget cuts that are impending for most of government, and also the debt ceiling. those are two items that we think may not be in a deal. may be kicked down the road. either those...